and totally, totally their whole idea through their religion is to destroy us. >> host: congressman, how to respond to that? negotiating a religious way? >> guest: he is right. to a great extent. it's not like we're making this up. you said over and over were the great, the great evil. in the middle eastern culture, it is looked upon with high regard to get the best deal possible to matter what it takes. that's one reason these gold states like to work with the united states because her honest and transparent and we have laws that we have to live by, even in the business world. he likes doing business with us as opposed to their partners or even the chinese to some extent because they like doing business with people honest and open and forthright. so that is i would say an underpinning to these negotiations. once again, if you want to blow yourself up and commit suicide in order to blow up other people, you are not a rational person and that is who you are dealing with what you do with iranians. >> host: are you saying all middle east countries at this way? willing to lie negotiation